On June 11 . Now the Lupus posts begin. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. I love Chris! she wrote. Both native to North Carolina, they married in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina in 2012. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3!, On June 19, she posted a screenshot of their texts after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. She was previously married to Chris Watts. But I could be wrong. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. He had policies on his kids and wife. On Aug. 15, 2018, less than a week after his wife and daughters disappeared, Chris Watts failed a polygraph test. OK honey. Chris Watts ' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and daughters Bella and Celeste went missing on Aug. 13, 2018, after she missed a doctor's appointment. That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. They added that they feared that the release of the film will only increase the harassment that they had already been receiving. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. Later, Chris confessed to murdering Shanann and his daughters. I think he was confused and didnt want to make a strong decision either way, yet wanted out of his marriage and family life. That same month Shanann and her daughters flew to North Carolina for six weeks to visit family, per Pop Sugar. He was charged with five counts . Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. And her house that everyone is talking about? Remains believed to belong to their two children were. I love this man! Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. She was a fraud plain and simple. Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. It paints Watts less a coward than as someone who was bullied into towing a line, until things got desperate. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. He stated that he was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger and wanted to divorce Shanann, but Shanann did not want a separation, and she strangled their daughters in response to that. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. Only he took them out first, because he knew he was going to end her life as soon as she got home. Very charming outside but empty inside. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. Often that doesnt come across very popular, and some people dont like what they hear. There is content out there that confirms not only did Shanann know a split was on the cards, but her own family did too. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on Instagram in April. ET. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. They are doing their best to survive the situation, she said. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. I love you so much and so grateful you hung around when I tried pushing you away in the beginning!, On Fathers Day, Shanann penned a loving tribute to her husband on Facebook, and she shared over a dozen photos of him cuddling and playing with their two kids. Learn the difference. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Chris and Shanann had their first date August 10, 2010. I think she went off of what others told her about CW and what she saw for herselfher implying judgement on him, belittling his character, controlling, making off-hand commentsa lot of that is part of her character, she was outgoing, sarcastic and opinionated, that isnt always bad. Chris Watts is serving five life sentences plus 48 years in prison without the possibility of parole. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. That is never a good sign. Just so sad. An officer arrived at about 1:40 pm to conduct a welfare check and had a discussion with Chris regarding the ways to locate his missing family. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. It was a part of his responsibility. Making the decisions. Interesting points made here. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. DENVER (AP/CBS4) Chris Watts, the sole suspect arrested in the murder of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, before dumping their bodies at an . Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Chris mother is controlling. I just thank God he took the right He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. Study up! I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. The irony is in exactly the same way he didnt feel acknowledged, towards the very end she complained that he hadnt acknowledged her or their unborn child. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. Yes, too little to late on her end. Between his mother controling him all thru his years growing up and then Shanann taking control, a person can only take so much. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. She said he had an empty head, forget everything. However, at the same time he was telling Kessinger a slightly different story. Days before Chris Watts murdered his wife, she sent chilling texts to a friend. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. The pot hadnt boiled over yet. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. I agree wholeheartedly that relationships/couples/etc. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. Chris was moved to an out-of-station location due to security concerns on December 3, 2018; he arrived at the maximum-security prison called Dodge Correctional Institution, Waupun, Wisconsin on December 5, 2018. The film features the story of the case and stars Sean Kleier and Ashley Williams as Chris Watts and Shanann Watts, respectively. He started working out and losing weight and passing glances with Kessinger in the hallway, lunch area, etc. He remarried and has kids. Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, this link [an extended version of the clip above], the best thing that has ever happened to her, https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. I am the louder, extroverted one in my marriage and my husband is the quieter, more agreeable type. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. Shanann Watts' FIRST husband: Interview excerpts Thought-provoking videos 6.44K subscribers Subscribe 401 Share 22K views 2 years ago Everyone deserves to know the Truth: That "God is Love". Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! From the . In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. Wake up to the day's most important news. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Disturbing prison letters from Chris Watts to a crime author detailed Shannan Watts' horrific death Credit: Refer to Caption 15 Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. Why kill them? I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. I cant come back like this. I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. Required fields are marked *. After killing Shanann, he drove her body to an oil drilling site where he worked, taking daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with him. So why take the children out too? They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. I . Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. Nothing out of the box. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. Required fields are marked *. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. Thats his choice, how he prefers it. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. she captioned. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. The doc also discusses Shannan's . You seem to like the psychopath label. In an interview with Dr.Phil, Chris lawyer told how Chris killed his daughters. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. Its 2018, but in many families there is still shame associated with being a victim of domestic violence, and survivors often try to put a good face on the relationship, said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Many have called him a monster, a psychopath, or just pure evil. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. Meanwhile, Chris began his affair with Nichol Kessinger, a woman he worked with, telling her he was separated. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! On August 21, Chris was charged with five counts of first-degree murder, an additional one count per child cited as death of a child who had not yet attained 12 years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust, three counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and unlawful termination of a pregnancy. in the future. Cans Natz. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." I agree on all counts. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Does anyone one have photos of it? When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. When you think about it it makes no sense Shanann would want to rekindle a romantic flame with Watts at Myrtle Beach then invite her parents along (and children). Yeah, she was a real gem. Shan'ann thought - or hoped - the marriage was stuttering slightly. It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant with the couple's son when Chris strangled her to death in their bedroom. Like a mercy killing. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? I think that was the form her OCD took. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. He wants out but. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. Shanann Watts and the girls had gone to visit her . On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. It may or may not tell the tale of whats really going on, she said. Yes . Part of HuffPost Crime. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. Can you imagine her as a single parent? He seems to have a minimal social life as well. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. 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In July, Chris flew to North Carolina to meet up with his family. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. However. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. I agree with your points. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! "Chris these have been the best years of my life! To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. And they were his children too, not just shannons. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. He wants to fade into the background. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? People divorce and move on with their lives. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. Shanann Watts was visiting her parents with her two daughters in the area for a summer vacation in the weeks leading up to her murder. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. 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